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the two new names, joy, are christina bobb and boris epstein. they have not been previously charged. but they were part of the team. they were part of the legal team. christina bobb, lawyer and sometimes television commentator, boris epstein, i believe a lawyer, involved in perp perpetuating the fake elector scheme. epstein is very, very close to the former president. one of those people even to this day continues to be part of the legal apparatus that is trying to assist the former president. so he has maintained a very close relationship with former president trump. christina bobb, i don't know is still in the orbit but for a period of time they were two of the voices. going back to what i said before about leaders and followers. neither of them were the architects of the strategy. john eastman and ken chesebro and then rudy giuliani as the quarterback, they are sort of the leaders of the conspiracy in terms of directing the actions of others. so bob, roman is not a lawyer, just a republican national committee staffer that was essentially faci
the two new names, joy, are christina bobb and boris epstein. they have not been previously charged. but they were part of the team. they were part of the legal team. christina bobb, lawyer and sometimes television commentator, boris epstein, i believe a lawyer, involved in perp perpetuating the fake elector scheme. epstein is very, very close to the former president. one of those people even to this day continues to be part of the legal apparatus that is trying to assist the former president....
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trump at the defendant table with boris epstein. has become central to trump's activities since 2020. in court as you see along with the defense council two day ins a row just as he was at the defense table at arraignment. he joined and led many different efforts throughout 2020 attacking those election results that showed trump lost. we have been reporting on those efforts for years including how contrary to the initial impression they included not just january 6th violence but a host of other plots over those months. we pressed him in those roles and legal views which is irrelevant as he is involved in this. now, here we are in this extremely busy week. he is there working on his phone. trying to help trump stay out of the new york prison. but, what we can tell you is he joined the trump lawyers who need lawyers of their own. arizona prosecutors indicting him. >> boris epshteyn continues to have a role. >> boris epshteyn, names we have heard in the past back in the news. >> this is the first time he has been indicted but also a fo
trump at the defendant table with boris epstein. has become central to trump's activities since 2020. in court as you see along with the defense council two day ins a row just as he was at the defense table at arraignment. he joined and led many different efforts throughout 2020 attacking those election results that showed trump lost. we have been reporting on those efforts for years including how contrary to the initial impression they included not just january 6th violence but a host of other...
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boris epstein and -- mike roman. the defendants are charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, all felonies. for scheming to prevent the lawful transfer of the president keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona voters. unindicted co-conspirator one, is donald trump. all of this comes as trump already faces 88 criminal charges across four jurisdictions. he is currently on trial in new york facing 34 charges related to election interference and business record fried. tomorrow morning, the supreme court will be hearing arguments in his immunity case, were trunk claims he cannot be prosecuted by special counsel jack smith in the federal january 6th election case against him. joining me now is -- von hillier. i know you have been reading into this and going through the indictment. first of all, set up what happened here in terms of the investigation, whose office did the investigation, how long it took and what attorney general mays announced today. >> it is important for folks that may be
boris epstein and -- mike roman. the defendants are charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, all felonies. for scheming to prevent the lawful transfer of the president keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona voters. unindicted co-conspirator one, is donald trump. all of this comes as trump already faces 88 criminal charges across four jurisdictions. he is currently on trial in new york facing 34 charges related to election interference and business record...
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epstein and mike roman five of these seven people were also inidated for similar conduct in the state of georgia where jenna ellis has already pleaded guilty the 11 fake electors were part of a multi-state scheme to help former president trump overturn results of the 2020 election there are already prosecution of at least some of these fake electors in three of the seven states involved in that multi-state scheme involving georgia, michigan, and nevada. but tonight marks the first time that criminal charges are being brought in the state of arizona. >> we're here because justice depends an answer to the efforts for the defendants and other indicted coconspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of arizona's voters during the 2020 election. arizona's elec the people ofti arizona elected president biden. unwilling tobi accept this fact the defendants charged by the state grand jury allegedly schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency. the state grand jury made up of every day regular arizonians has now handed down felony indictments for all 11 republican electors as w
epstein and mike roman five of these seven people were also inidated for similar conduct in the state of georgia where jenna ellis has already pleaded guilty the 11 fake electors were part of a multi-state scheme to help former president trump overturn results of the 2020 election there are already prosecution of at least some of these fake electors in three of the seven states involved in that multi-state scheme involving georgia, michigan, and nevada. but tonight marks the first time that...
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boris epstein and sebastian gorca. in boris epstein, someone who was also a refugee who goes out and says very similar thing to what we hear donald trump say on the campaign trail. when it comes to being anti- immigrant for black and brown people, because he definitely puts a different ire of immigrants of color than immigrants from europe, we need to be very understanding of where he is coming from, not to make sense of it, but to seek also why people kind of rally around that. because we are seeing from the immigrants, the migrants who have been sent from texas, from florida, to cities and towns across america, chicago being my hometown, but new york an other places where the strain on the system, whether we are talking about schools or health or any of these other areas of focus, those people though they may not be embedded in the same rhetoric of donald trump are very upset about what they have seen happen. i think he is playing on suppression. and anger of people in cities that can't control and don't have enough
boris epstein and sebastian gorca. in boris epstein, someone who was also a refugee who goes out and says very similar thing to what we hear donald trump say on the campaign trail. when it comes to being anti- immigrant for black and brown people, because he definitely puts a different ire of immigrants of color than immigrants from europe, we need to be very understanding of where he is coming from, not to make sense of it, but to seek also why people kind of rally around that. because we are...
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along with trump campaign officials boris epstein and mike ronan. five of them were indicted for similar conduct in the state of georgia where jenna ellis has already pleaded guilty. they were part of a multistate scheme to help trump overturn the results of the 2020 election. and there are already prosecutions of some of these involved in that multistate scheme including georgia, michigan, and nevada. but tonight marks the first time that criminal charges are being brought in the state of arizona. >> we are here because justice demands an answer to the efforts of the defendants and other unindicted coconspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of arizona's voters during the 2020 presidential election. arizona's election was free and fair. the people of arizona elected president biden. unwilling to accept this fact, the defendants charged by the state grand jury allegedly schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency. a grand jury has handed down 11 felony indictments. these charges include fraud, forgery, and conspiracy. they are c
along with trump campaign officials boris epstein and mike ronan. five of them were indicted for similar conduct in the state of georgia where jenna ellis has already pleaded guilty. they were part of a multistate scheme to help trump overturn the results of the 2020 election. and there are already prosecutions of some of these involved in that multistate scheme including georgia, michigan, and nevada. but tonight marks the first time that criminal charges are being brought in the state of...
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there is boris epstein, one of his aides, who is actually under indictment in the state of arizona. to the control room has trump running to the courtroom yet? we just missed him apparently. okay, we will keep on watching that. now president biden weighing in on whether he is willing to face for president trump on a debate stage. here he is with howard stern, listen here. >> i don't know if you are going to debate your opponent. >> i am somewhere i don't know when. i am happy to debate him. >> john: a president trump responding on true social saying "work at joe biden is saying he's willing to debate. everyone knows he doesn't really mean it but in case he does i say anywhere, anytime, anyplace." an old expression used by fighters. i suggest monday evening, tuesday evening, or wednesday evening at my rally in michigan. estate he is of the process of destroying with his electric vehicle mandates and the alternative he is in new york city today although probably does not know it and saw my stuck in one of the many court cases that he instigated his election interference against a poli
there is boris epstein, one of his aides, who is actually under indictment in the state of arizona. to the control room has trump running to the courtroom yet? we just missed him apparently. okay, we will keep on watching that. now president biden weighing in on whether he is willing to face for president trump on a debate stage. here he is with howard stern, listen here. >> i don't know if you are going to debate your opponent. >> i am somewhere i don't know when. i am happy to...
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epstein, christina bobb and trump campaign operative mike roman. the indictment says, "defendants and unindicted co- conspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona's voters. this scheme would have deprived arizona voters of their right to votes and have their votes counted. the defendants voted for then donald trump and vice president mike pence on december 14, 2020, falsely claiming to be duly elected and qualified electors for president and vice president of the united states from the state of arizona. defendants deceived the citizens of arizona by falsely claiming that those votes were contingent only on a legal challenge that would change the outcome of the election. in reality defendants intended that their false votes for trump/pence would encourage pence to reject the biden/harris votes on january 6th, 2021, regardless of the outcome. the scheme failed when mike pence accepted all certified biden/harris votes on january 6th , 2021. the indicted
epstein, christina bobb and trump campaign operative mike roman. the indictment says, "defendants and unindicted co- conspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona's voters. this scheme would have deprived arizona voters of their right to votes and have their votes counted. the defendants voted for then donald trump and vice president mike pence on december 14, 2020, falsely claiming to be...
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. >> well boris epstein was charged, that's a first. he wasn't charged in georgia for the fake electors asking there. he was an unindicted co- conspirator in the case in dc brought by jack smith. but, for the first time he's going to pay the price here in arizona. he is essentially the inside counsel to trump. and you got to believe if he's involved in this, then donald trump is personally involved. but why wasn't trump charged himself? i think it's because the attorney general there saw when trump is charged in other cases the cases slow down to a crawl. whether it's because he's claiming political interferences, or the judges, there are tactics at work, it has hurt these other cases. so she said okay, we will charge the other players and see if some of them will flip against the boss, and then we may bring the case against trump later when we have a more solid case. if you are going to get the king, you had better have the goods. >> tara, there was a number of arizona officials charged as well including state legislatures and the repu
. >> well boris epstein was charged, that's a first. he wasn't charged in georgia for the fake electors asking there. he was an unindicted co- conspirator in the case in dc brought by jack smith. but, for the first time he's going to pay the price here in arizona. he is essentially the inside counsel to trump. and you got to believe if he's involved in this, then donald trump is personally involved. but why wasn't trump charged himself? i think it's because the attorney general there saw...
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the trump aides who been included, are mark meadows, rudy giuliani, boris epstein, former trump campaign white house official mike roman, jenna ellis, christina bob, and john eastman, yet another attorney and trump legal adviser in the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are very real charges, of very real crimes, allegedly committed at the highest levels of the trump campaign and the trump white house. trump himself is charged in george's indictment. seven states with fae collectors were nevada, arizona, new mexico, wisconsin, michigan, georgia, and pennsylvania. as we said, we have seen charges in four other states, now. all seven of these states are key battleground states that could be decisive in this year's election. joining me now is ryan j riley, justice reporter friend he and the author of "sedition hunters, how january 6th broke the justice system." here's the thing. that george indictment is so detailed, it has text, communications that go beyond georgia, to pennsylvania, to michigan, to arizona, the information is not new to us. the degree to which this was a sophisticated
the trump aides who been included, are mark meadows, rudy giuliani, boris epstein, former trump campaign white house official mike roman, jenna ellis, christina bob, and john eastman, yet another attorney and trump legal adviser in the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are very real charges, of very real crimes, allegedly committed at the highest levels of the trump campaign and the trump white house. trump himself is charged in george's indictment. seven states with fae collectors were...
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epstein and campaign official mike roman. now, trump was not charged but described as unindicted coconspirator one. the indictments mark a significant step forward in an investigation that has spanned more than a year. here's arizona's attorney general kris mayes. >> i understand for some of you today it didn't come fast enough, and i know i'll be criticized by others for conducting this investigation at all. as i've stated before and will say here again today i will not allow american democracy to be nsaid mined. it's too important. >> the republican party of arizona said in a statement posted to social media that the indictments represented a blatant and unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial power aimed solely at distracting the public from the critical policy debates our country should be focusing on as we approach the 2024 election. now, arizona becomes the fourth state to file criminal charges against the so-called fake electors that sought to undermine president biden's victory over trump. in just hours, meanwhile, donal
epstein and campaign official mike roman. now, trump was not charged but described as unindicted coconspirator one. the indictments mark a significant step forward in an investigation that has spanned more than a year. here's arizona's attorney general kris mayes. >> i understand for some of you today it didn't come fast enough, and i know i'll be criticized by others for conducting this investigation at all. as i've stated before and will say here again today i will not allow american...
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boris epstein, campaign official and attorney. mike roman. former trump attorney jenna ellis. former trump attorney and john eastman, yet another attorney and trump legal advisor in the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are very, very real charges of very real crimes allegedly committed at the highest levels of the trump campaign and the trump white house. trump himself is of course charged in george's indictment. the seven states with fake electors in 2020 were nevada, arizona, new mexico, wisconsin, michigan, georgia, and pennsylvania. as we've said we have seen charges in four states now. all seven of these states are key battleground states that could be decisive in this year's election. joining us now is ryan j. reilly, justice reporter for nbc and author of a remarkable book, sedition hunters, how january 6 broke the justice system. here's the thing. that georgia indictment is so detailed. it has texts. it has communications that go to pennsylvania, goes to michigan, goes to arizona. so the information is not new to us, but the degree to which this was a sophisticate
boris epstein, campaign official and attorney. mike roman. former trump attorney jenna ellis. former trump attorney and john eastman, yet another attorney and trump legal advisor in the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are very, very real charges of very real crimes allegedly committed at the highest levels of the trump campaign and the trump white house. trump himself is of course charged in george's indictment. the seven states with fake electors in 2020 were nevada, arizona, new mexico,...
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and i want to know two because boris epstein, who is a close adviser to the former president, he worked on the president's campaign in 2020 of his instrumental to this effort to overturn the 2020 election. he is probably the one person in this indictment who has stayed close to the former president in the years since the effort to overturn the election. in fact, he was with the former president in manhattan when donald trump was arraigned in the hush money case. and sources are telling kristen holmes that the reason we haven't seen boris epshteyn close to the former president as his trial in new york has started, is because of concerns in trump's inner circle about this it's looming indictment in arizona. so now we know that boris epshteyn is among those who has been indicted and charged along with mark meadows, rudy giuliani, and a host of others that cohen thanks so much meanwhile, in the former prisoners bid to return to the white house. he's been laying the groundwork for what another term in office might look like, primarily how he plans to execute his goal of overhauling the feder
and i want to know two because boris epstein, who is a close adviser to the former president, he worked on the president's campaign in 2020 of his instrumental to this effort to overturn the 2020 election. he is probably the one person in this indictment who has stayed close to the former president in the years since the effort to overturn the election. in fact, he was with the former president in manhattan when donald trump was arraigned in the hush money case. and sources are telling kristen...
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. >> you know, it's remarkable to me is boris epstein who is in here who's never been indicted before. yeah. >> which is in and of itself also works for donald trump right now, comes with them to court. he is currently one of his top advisers. he's immensely involved in the campaign christina bob, who's in your she's the one who signed that letter at mar-lago saying there's no more classified documents here to the best of my knowledge, she's also a senior counsel on election integrity for the rnc right now. i mean, it's the web is admits. >> yeah. but look, it's almost like you're in a different world. there is what is happening in these court documents in these cases then there is the former president and all these people who are under indictment and carrying on their lives as if it's not happening schedule. >> thank you for being with us everyone else stick around. >> we've got a lot more ahead. we are monitoring some breaking news, though, out of california, there is a standoff ongoing right now between police and protesters on the campus. of usc. dozens have already been arrested.
. >> you know, it's remarkable to me is boris epstein who is in here who's never been indicted before. yeah. >> which is in and of itself also works for donald trump right now, comes with them to court. he is currently one of his top advisers. he's immensely involved in the campaign christina bob, who's in your she's the one who signed that letter at mar-lago saying there's no more classified documents here to the best of my knowledge, she's also a senior counsel on election...
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epstein. and their efforts to overturn trump's 2020 election loss in that states. the indictment also includes charges against so-called fake electors in arizona, which reads, quote, in arizona and the united states, the people elected president biden as president on november 3, 2020 unwilling to accept this fact defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted coconspirator. a number one in office against the will of arizona's voters. the details in the indictment suggest trump is one of those unindicted coconspirators it sounds like he's coconspirator number one. here to explain the cases arizona secretary of state adrian fontes. first of all, let me just start with, why is arizona pursuing this case and why so late? >> well first thanks for having me on jake and second the question of lateness really i don't think is that relevant to the attorney general's office was very thorough in its investigation. they followed the fac
epstein. and their efforts to overturn trump's 2020 election loss in that states. the indictment also includes charges against so-called fake electors in arizona, which reads, quote, in arizona and the united states, the people elected president biden as president on november 3, 2020 unwilling to accept this fact defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted coconspirator. a number one in office against the will of arizona's...
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one, boris epstein, that's notable. he's a top aide to donald trump right now. you often see him accompanying donald trump when he goes to court or when he's out on the campaign trail, also, christina bob, maybe not a household name, but she was the attorney who was dealt at mar-a-lago signing a document saying yes, tomorrow, knowledge, all the documents have been turned over to the federal government, which obviously they had not that she's not charge for that here, but she is charged in the fake electors. >> and i think picking up on ellie's point from a little bit earlier, what's notable is that even though state law as are going to vary from state to state, state election laws and how different attorneys general we're going to proceed. the evidence is largely going to be the same and most of these states, the same people play the same roles across whether it was our arizona, georgia, nevada and elsewhere. and so it is a little bit curious as to why christina bob is charged here, but not elsewhere. now obviously, to shams point, there may be different levels
one, boris epstein, that's notable. he's a top aide to donald trump right now. you often see him accompanying donald trump when he goes to court or when he's out on the campaign trail, also, christina bob, maybe not a household name, but she was the attorney who was dealt at mar-a-lago signing a document saying yes, tomorrow, knowledge, all the documents have been turned over to the federal government, which obviously they had not that she's not charge for that here, but she is charged in the...
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epstein in this current case, it was blanches aggression that actually got him in trouble with judge1 were shot when he persisted in defending trump against a gag order violation charge. judge merchan told blanche, quote, your losing all credibility with the court. analysts say these are the pitfalls of representing donald trump. >> you have a client who is very strong headed, who expects things from his lawyers that they cannot deliver. >> who after his many decades of entanglement with the legal system often appears to believe he knows better than his lawyers what should happen a source close to the former president's legal team downplay the idea of possible tension with trump and the team telling cnn a criminal trial is an inherently stressful situation that the team is just fine and focused on the witnesses that matter wolff very interesting. bryan todd reporting brian could report. thank you very much and joining us now, the former federal prosecutor, sarah chris off, who worked with todd blanche at the manhattan us attorney's office. sarah, thanks so much for joining us. you kno
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epstein. >> trump himself was not charged in this case, but he is named as an unindicted coconspirator. >> let's go and cosine national security reporter zachary cohen, who is in arizona right now. so zach, what do these indictments say about this so-called fake electors plot. and what are the charges they are now facing yellow or donald trump may not be charged in this indictment, but it does outline it and entire conspiracy alleged conspiracy it revolves around donald trump and it charges several people who are very close in on trump, especially in that period right after the 2020 election, where he was trying to overturn the election results and especially here in arizona, it was targeting arizona along with six other key swings dates to try to flip that electoral count from biden to trump and look, there's 11 electors plus seven really close trump allies that are charged here. >> the electors, we always assume that this imbalance destination was focused on the electors themselves. but we've had reporting in the last few months that there were indications investigation was beginning
epstein. >> trump himself was not charged in this case, but he is named as an unindicted coconspirator. >> let's go and cosine national security reporter zachary cohen, who is in arizona right now. so zach, what do these indictments say about this so-called fake electors plot. and what are the charges they are now facing yellow or donald trump may not be charged in this indictment, but it does outline it and entire conspiracy alleged conspiracy it revolves around donald trump and it...
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boris epstein and mike roman. donald trump is the unindicted co-conspirator one. they sought to overturn joe biden's victory over donald trump. let's bring in barbara mcquade. we can ask you so many questions. why did they tape this? i could ask why it took so long to bring this case since they had the fraudulent documents for years and video tape for years. but i will start by asking you how strong of a case you think this is against the fraudulent electors. >> well, as detailed in this indictment, this is what prosecutors would refer to as a speaking indictment. they don't just throw out the charges. they detail the evidence they have against them. it appears to me a very strong case. it also, because you've got so many defendants here, it seems very likely that some of them will cooperate and testify, especially because, as you point out, there is video evidence of the crime occurring. i think one of the things that is really interesting here is the inclusion in this case of people like john eastman and rudy giuliani, christina bobb, jenna ellis. some of these
boris epstein and mike roman. donald trump is the unindicted co-conspirator one. they sought to overturn joe biden's victory over donald trump. let's bring in barbara mcquade. we can ask you so many questions. why did they tape this? i could ask why it took so long to bring this case since they had the fraudulent documents for years and video tape for years. but i will start by asking you how strong of a case you think this is against the fraudulent electors. >> well, as detailed in this...
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ep epstein stein with trying to declare trump the 2020 winner contrary to voter intent and the law. >> the people of arizona elected president biden. unwilling to accept this fact, the defendants charged by the state grand jury allegedly schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency. >> reporter: trump has also been named an unindicted co-conspirator in michigan where 16 republicans were charged with illegally trying to replace electoral votes for biden for votes for trump. and here at trump's criminal trial, prosecutors said donald trump violated the judge's gag order four more times in recent days during remarks in the hallway and interviews outside court. the judge still hasn't decided whether to hold trump in contempt. michael? >> michael: another big day of testimony. thank you, aaron. now back to terry moran at the supreme court. good morning again, terry. >> reporter: good morning, michael. this morning lawyers for former president trump will make an unprecedented, even startling argument in the supreme court. they'll say that presidents cannot be prosecuted for an
ep epstein stein with trying to declare trump the 2020 winner contrary to voter intent and the law. >> the people of arizona elected president biden. unwilling to accept this fact, the defendants charged by the state grand jury allegedly schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency. >> reporter: trump has also been named an unindicted co-conspirator in michigan where 16 republicans were charged with illegally trying to replace electoral votes for biden for votes for...
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in fact, sources have told us and people close to trump told us that the reason bores epstein hasn't been seen with trump in new york for the start of his criminal trial. there is because of concerns of this looming and died eight min. so come into fruition today. >> and so some of these defendants and some of these that you're naming boris obviously rudy giuliani, mark meadows, their names are redacted in the version that we have now because i understand there's still actually in the process of serving them. so when i say this is breaking, it's breaking to that level. is there anything else you can tell us about some of these redacted names which by the way are written. some of them in the context of unindicted coconspirator number one was unwilling to accept that he lost the election, right? that undated unindicted coconspirator number one, obviously then is donald j. trump? >> right? absolutely. and look, these are all individuals from the trump world, from the trump universe that we've identified so far are obviously very close to trump we're very close to trump at a certain time
in fact, sources have told us and people close to trump told us that the reason bores epstein hasn't been seen with trump in new york for the start of his criminal trial. there is because of concerns of this looming and died eight min. so come into fruition today. >> and so some of these defendants and some of these that you're naming boris obviously rudy giuliani, mark meadows, their names are redacted in the version that we have now because i understand there's still actually in the...